Brexit Paradox


Very quick post I wanted to share that’s too long for Twitter.

I’ve just been told to “stop whinging, Brexit means Brexit and you lost” by 2 leavers on the Guardian and Facebook recently.  Its OK, I was a little upset but I’m fine now.  So when I asked the first what Brexit meant exactly they replied:

Brexit means exactly what it says !

Leaving the EU completely, so no Norway or any other model. But a new British model, which means we will just sign a Free trade agreement with the EU as its in both our interests to do so. That means free trade but no to membership and free movement , this is the same deal that many other countries around the world have with the EU including Mexico.

A few minutes later however, when I posted video below of Dan Hannan MEP on Facebook, and said that it described a Norway model with free movement, harmonization of regulations, access to the single market and contributions to the EU budget, the 2nd Brexit voter replied:

I wasn’t conned.  Its actually exactly what I want as a brexit voter.  Please, just give up, we are leaving the EU no matter no matter how hard you throw your toys out of the pram…

So, just so we remainers understand this:

Brexit is/is not the Norway model, includes/excludes free movement, includes/excludes an EU financial contribution and does/does not require regulation harmonization.

Trade will be carried out via the Single Market/a new as yet undefined comprehensive trade agreement which includes/may include/will not include financial passporting.

Remainers need to stop whinging and accept this/put their heads in their hands in despair and one thing we can definitely confirm is that Leave voters are/most definitely are not fully informed about the choice they made on June 23rd.

I hope that clears things up.

 

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6 comments

  1. Reblogged this on Joining The Dots and commented:
    A punchy post by my old friend Tony. Quite. We were indeed asked a stupid question.

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  2. […] it will be OK”, yet that is exactly what we are being asked to do in Brexit. This is just one example of an exchange I had with 2 Leave supporters on the same day, both utterly convinced of their […]

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  3. In earlier blogs you have argued that the Leave voters want outcomes that are mutually impossible to achieve (e.g., pro-globalisation vs anti-globalisation). I have been trying to explain this to people who voted to leave. Responses have either been,
    “At least it will be a change”, or
    “Now we have decided to leave we will just need to make the best of it”.
    What I see is a deep-seated antipathy to the EU and a desire to leave even if we are worse off (culturally and economically as a result).

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    1. Hi Debbie, that’s worrying. The question is do these people think they will be personally affected? How long will their resolve hold when we start to see rising prices?

      There’s a number of people we just will not reach, its that simple I suppose. But we only need to reach 10% or so for a majority. Did you take a look at https://musealoudblog.wordpress.com/2016/08/25/52-immigration-brexit/

      In that I say
      “So at the moment the following question has not been explicitly asked of the public, namely should the government:

      1) Favour reducing immigration at the expense of the economy and other EU benefits or

      2) Favour the economy and other EU benefits rather than reducing immigration”

      At some point that question has to be asked of the public – but who will ask it?

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  4. […] deliberate vagueness of the Leave campaign is almost comically illustrated in this exchange which happened a few weeks after the vote.  Even now there are many Leave voters who are […]

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  5. […] deliberate vagueness of the Leave campaign is almost comically illustrated in this exchange which happened a few weeks after the […]

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